tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6931353.post2737219006976976140..comments2023-10-28T09:25:39.790-04:00Comments on The Atavist: DifferencesThe Atavisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12529157597486952484noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6931353.post-34839040748090279572007-12-09T12:45:00.000-05:002007-12-09T12:45:00.000-05:00Galt: Whenever I use the term 'capitalism,' laiss...Galt: Whenever I use the term 'capitalism,' laissez-faire is implied. You're right -- managed economies (or what passes for capitalism in our societies, don't qualify. <BR/><BR/>At the personal level, I personally don't care if anyone works or not -- as long as they don't send me the bill for any budget shortfalls, resulting from their choice, via taxes or any other extortive means.<BR/><BR/>We are all different and I can live with that. My position to those who want to live alternative lifestyles is very simple: Leave me alone to live my life and I'll leave you alone to live yours. Don't ask me to support you and I will never ask you to support me.The Atavisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12529157597486952484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6931353.post-78845197762648684902007-12-09T12:05:00.000-05:002007-12-09T12:05:00.000-05:00Still can't figure out what TG means by Sanuk, but...Still can't figure out what TG means by <I>Sanuk</I>, but by the photo, I gather "catchin' some Zs".<BR/>Capitalism, is NOT free enterprise. It is a cheap, superficial counterfeit, just as altruism is to charity. If the true economy of Adam Smith was allowed to operate, ANYONE could become prosperous by their own labor. Under capitalism however, one must constantly brown-nose, cowtow and jump through all the hoops of the bureaucrats and pull-peddlers in order to keep less than half of what they earn!<BR/>As to the delusion that the Protestant Reformation in particular, and WestCiv in general are responsible for the dangerous and terrible notion one should earn one's own keep, I pin that one on <B>common sense</B>...a reality conveniently evaded by emotionalists!TheWayfarerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15074292938877766871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6931353.post-90882332309865683922007-12-09T09:47:00.000-05:002007-12-09T09:47:00.000-05:00phlegmfatale: I agree. I think that we need the ...phlegmfatale: I agree. I think that we need the focus and determination and the responsibility for self. However .. I do tell my son that it is not how much money he will make that will make him happy but how much he loves his job or business. If you enjoy going to work every day, you have it made.The Atavisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12529157597486952484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6931353.post-78732421837198710382007-12-09T06:28:00.000-05:002007-12-09T06:28:00.000-05:00Um, about the work ethic thingie - I believe peopl...Um, about the work ethic thingie - I believe people who live an unproductive existence can never be fully self-actualized and never experience the true breadth and fulfillment of life.phlegmfatalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08636803080525003892noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6931353.post-7175429238314055002007-12-07T10:12:00.000-05:002007-12-07T10:12:00.000-05:00Chani: There is a lot that goes on in the world t...Chani: There is a lot that goes on in the world that is unfair and unjust. I guess my big problem with reactions to all this stuff is, like Mark, that it is laid at the feet of capitalism and 'the almighty dollar' or 'greed' or other generalizations that simply aren't completely accurate. There is no pure capitalism anywhere in the world that I know of. Real laissez-faire capitalism (where there are no government-enforced regulations or artificial monopolies) need affluent, well-informed customers and happy, fairly-treated employees. <BR/><BR/>There are no simple solutions, but dialogue among individuals and a willingness to listen to others with opposing views is a great start.<BR/><BR/>Yes, it has been a while. I appreciate your input and dialogue, as always.The Atavisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12529157597486952484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6931353.post-33110690252659905212007-12-07T09:27:00.000-05:002007-12-07T09:27:00.000-05:00My ex and I used to discuss the NAP frequently and...My ex and I used to discuss the NAP frequently and I do like it. Can't help but think the world would be a much better place if people did allow others the freedom to be who they are and what they want to be ~ as long as they are not harming someone else. <BR/><BR/>To a degree, that was one of the points I wanted to make with my post. The brainwashing and the exploitation are definitely a problem for me. Perhaps at some point, I can write a post about that and tie the two concepts together. <BR/><BR/>Staying out of someone else's head and not brainwashing them for self-interest would definitely fall under the NAP, in my opinion. :) <BR/><BR/>Thanks. It's been a while, eh? :)thailandchanihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10171731740204067889noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6931353.post-31882458089989926122007-12-07T09:16:00.000-05:002007-12-07T09:16:00.000-05:00Catmoves: As a libertarian (or classic liberal, b...Catmoves: As a libertarian (or classic liberal, before the term 'liberal' came to mean what it does today) all Mark wants is to be responsible for himself and to be able to keep his money. Seems perfectly reasonable to me.<BR/><BR/>Chani: The libertarian "Non-Aggression Principle," is the cornerstone of the libertarian philosophy and it is exactly what, naturally, everyone who is against capitalism or libertarianism ignores. That is the point that Mark is making and he is absolutely correct.<BR/><BR/>Nice to see you here, by the way.The Atavisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12529157597486952484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6931353.post-21040352682835278762007-12-06T21:19:00.000-05:002007-12-06T21:19:00.000-05:00Well, I must admit that I certainly liked this pas...Well, I must admit that I certainly liked this passage from Jeff's article: <BR/><BR/><I>The world could use a dose of the Non-Aggression Principal, especially here in the West where our governments spend a lot of time telling the rest of the world how they're supposed to live their lives and shitting all over other people's rights to self-determination; undertaking actions most of us disagree with and doing it in our names.</I>thailandchanihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10171731740204067889noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6931353.post-83157837156853846602007-12-06T19:45:00.000-05:002007-12-06T19:45:00.000-05:00Atavist you couldn't have chosen better. For my pa...Atavist you couldn't have chosen better. For my part, Chani's post had me shaking my head in agreement more than the "liberal's" statements, although he made some good points. Thanks for enabling me to go forth and learn.Catmoveshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13192091477404637971noreply@blogger.com