tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6931353.post116361257445812156..comments2023-10-28T09:25:39.790-04:00Comments on The Atavist: The Republic of MinervaThe Atavisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12529157597486952484noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6931353.post-1163686009127898512006-11-16T09:06:00.000-05:002006-11-16T09:06:00.000-05:00Hi, Sergey:How nice to hear from a Pedde in Russia...Hi, Sergey:<BR/><BR/>How nice to hear from a Pedde in Russia! I didn't get your submission via the www.pedde.net site, probably due to an aggressive spam filter, but I would love to see your email if you send it directly to spedde@pedde.net.<BR/><BR/>As you no doubt read on my site, my father grew up in Siberia and I would be curious to see if there is any family connection between us.<BR/><BR/>If you feel more comfortable corresponding in German, I am nearly fluent in that language as well.The Atavisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12529157597486952484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6931353.post-1163685108255468292006-11-16T08:51:00.000-05:002006-11-16T08:51:00.000-05:00Dear Sieg! I have resently sent you my detailed m...Dear Sieg!<BR/> I have resently sent you my detailed mail about my relationship to PEDDEs onto www.pedde.net. Please read it for further contacts with me. Or better reply to me using this add: s.pedde@mail.ru<BR/>Yours trully, Sergey Pedde,<BR/>city Vilzhskiy, Volgograd territory,RussiaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6931353.post-1163684751663307262006-11-16T08:45:00.000-05:002006-11-16T08:45:00.000-05:00Bellezza: Sadly, I suspect you're right about nev...Bellezza: Sadly, I suspect you're right about never seeing a perfect society on earth. Human beings are too imperfect, inconsistent, and have imperfect memories. They forget the good things about their neighbours overnight but remember the bad for generations.<BR/><BR/>But we can dream, can't we?<BR/><BR/>Penny: Ironically, some of the sixties communes were unintentionally capitalistic. The members co-operated to pay the bills, they created things to sell to raise money, they grew food to sell and eat, and they did it all voluntarily, without delegating anyone as tax collector or censor or rule enforcer. No-one was forced to join. All of these are inherent in true capitalism. What these people hated as 'the man' was state capitalism, where some businesses or industries get special treatment by government via subsidies, cronyism, protection from competition, etc. And the hippies were quite right in hating that sort of thing.<BR/><BR/>Some hippies went on to become very successful businesspeople, modelling their businesses on their philosophical backbone. Ben and Jerry of ice cream fame come to mind.The Atavisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12529157597486952484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6931353.post-1163635089317870862006-11-15T18:58:00.000-05:002006-11-15T18:58:00.000-05:00I've seen that picture, but a different rendition ...I've seen that picture, but a different rendition of it, during my Native Art Studies course at the U. Interesting.<BR/><BR/>"Commune".. 'communism'.. I didn't even see that. lol.<BR/><BR/>I looked them up, briefly and found that there are varying types of communes:<BR/>"Anarchistic", "Retreat", "Intentional"<BR/><BR/>However, during the 60s/70's one of the main fundamental ideas behind the Commune was to reject "the established order on which capitalism rests".<BR/><BR/>So, yeah.. lol! ~ sorry 'bout that!SuperP.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06830641369098524799noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6931353.post-1163633556389343712006-11-15T18:32:00.000-05:002006-11-15T18:32:00.000-05:00"And some of us have a little bit of Don Quixote i..."And some of us have a little bit of Don Quixote in us. We have a soft spot for lost causes. We dream and hope that someday, under just the right circumstances, something that we envision could actually exist somewhere in the world. Or maybe on the moon, or on another planet. Someday, somewhere, there will be a society of free people.<BR/><BR/>But when?" <BR/><BR/>Praise for the dreamers...as to when? Not, I'm afraid, in this lifetime. On this world. I think it'll have to be Heaven.Bellezza https://www.blogger.com/profile/18073864187188953633noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6931353.post-1163620482725551712006-11-15T14:54:00.000-05:002006-11-15T14:54:00.000-05:00Interesting comment, Penny. A commune normally co...Interesting comment, Penny. A commune normally conjures up the idea of communism, something that would be antithetical to libertarianism. Or would it? <BR/><BR/>Actually, not necessarily. A larger libertarian society couldn't be communistic because that would necessarily mean that everyone had to play by the same rules of sharing. But, any free and voluntarty association by a number of individuals within the larger society could be communistic or just about anything else. As long as that group had no direct influence over the larger society, and as long as membership was voluntary, no reasonable libertarian would object. <BR/><BR/>The Don Quixote book by Cervantes is a fun read. Even more fun is the Don Quixote illustration by Picasso, which I'm sure you must have seen somewhere: http://www.poster.net/picasso-pablo/picasso-pablo-don-quixote-7900441.jpgThe Atavisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12529157597486952484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6931353.post-1163616734513940032006-11-15T13:52:00.000-05:002006-11-15T13:52:00.000-05:00It sounds like you are describing a commune from t...It sounds like you are describing a commune from the sixties.<BR/><BR/>Just an observation.<BR/><BR/>I don't know Don Quixote, I'll have to look him up. <BR/><BR/>Your ideas make me think. A lot.SuperP.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06830641369098524799noreply@blogger.com